Monday, May 29, 2006

Q: Why not Reservation based on economical standards?

So when these people turned propoor? How can they? Have they ever protested for a Petrole price hike or a gas price hike or for basic education quality or noon meal schemes or anything in their life? Now they are worrying about the poor people. We know whose poverty you want to eliminate!!

See the ground situation. India is the country of villages and most people depend upon Agriculture. This year I may get a good mansoon and a good harvest .

Next year, no rain or untimely rain or a pest attack or a low price... and I will face heavy loss ( Irrespective of the farm size.. more farm land = more loss ). So what will happen to my son's Quota Eligibility if it is based on my economic conditions? Will you change it every year, or every mansoon?

I am a very rich man son all these years. Last week share market crashed( say 2000 points) and lost all my money and become a barrower. So i will get my seat this year since at present my finances are in the negative side ? ( Now a days even enrgy majors are going bankrupt aka enron)

This financial basis is not a workable solution at all. We are asking for a simple workable cycle that takes us to a few kilometer than a nonworking FERRARI or MASSERATI which will take you nowhere!

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Even that logic doesn't justify caste based reservation. Such fate can also occur to an upper class person.

Anonymous said...

Honey... you'd do good to be in the parliament,
Spare the common man of your nice arguments.

Your logic seems to resemble exactly the one of traditional politician image of india.

Anonymous said...

good one...
the basis of bringing reservation is to attain social equality and not economic equality...and these "anonymous"s will never understand that

Anonymous said...

friend,
it is a nice attempt to try and rationalise your views, and in some ways u r right that economically based reservations cud end up being a failure.

we have an exclusion of creamy layer for many reserved categories in different part of our country
but, these are easily bypassed by way of fake certificates and false affidavidits by people who belong to the reserved categories but are actually very well-to-do, and these people are actually the ones exploiting the benefits of reservations at every level, while denying opportunity to both the meritorius GEN.Cat. candidates, and the genuinely underpriviledged candidates. those who probably need the benefit of reservations to give them a headstart, are denied that by their very own financialy and socially well-off caste-mates, and yet these politicians succeed in fooling the downtrodden by prominsing upliftment by way of reservations.

Please do not be fooled any more

Anonymous said...

Mr Pro-reservation.
if you had your brains in your head instead of in your ass you would realise that when you achieve economic equality social equality is automatically attained. without economics there is nothing.!!!!!!!!!1

Anonymous said...

1.so u mean to say that this country should not care about the poor in the upper cast.

2.Y bring reservation only in education why not in sports? Sports is good carrier option to which can elevate the social status.


Millions of downtrodden ppl cannot be uplifted just by giving few seats in colleges and in government jobs. Their upliftment should start from the primary education, not at the college lvl.Has the government done any thing to stop the school drop outs. Have u seen how the govt run schools functions. These are the areas which should be given priority. The primary education should be made strong. Give them free books, create good libraries ,give them access to internet,if they are not able to study at home,plz provide them a place to study peacefully. Pamper them when they are young. They should be made capable to compete with all the ppl.
Yes accepted the upper cast ppl had in the past have suppressed the lower class ppl . But dont you think your are also doing the same thing now by denying them their basic right for education?

Plz dont get mesmerized by the politicians know their motto very well.

I am proud to be Bramin as ur proud about ur cast.But my proudness dont mean that i am against your cast.Things have chaged so much , thaks for ppl like periyar who had created awarness about the plight of the downtrodden.But based on what ever knowledge i have about periyar and his radical views i think he would have also said the economic critria should form the basis of education, not the caste criteria.

Thanks
Krishnan

Anonymous said...

When I went for admission to engineering, I saw so many people with OBC certificates coming in cars and getting admissions in prestigious institutions. They all had certificates stating that they didn't belong to "creamy layer". I knew one of them personally. He lives in a posh colony, drives a car and wears designer clothes.

I am not a Brahmin, nor do I believe in the caste system. But just because I don't belong to a backward class, I could not get admission? Is that fair?

If we don't take economical standards into consideration, people like these will exploit the system to get the benefits. And people like me will be left heartburnt.

I was never an anti-reservationist, but after this incident, I have become one.

Viswanathan M B said...

Before giving my comment I sincerely request all bloggers - This is a sensitive topic so please put your points in a dignified manner that it doesn't hurt any one.

Now coming to my comment - Yes, ofcourse administering a system based on financial backwardness is difficult but not impossible. SCs/STs is not one caste but is a very big list of caste. When such definitions can be made to describe a set of caste do you think it is really difficult to define what financial backwardness mean. For that matter deprivation index is a very good system only in that it is difficult to administer.

I would like to bring your attention to the point, that a proposal was brought in the parliament to reserve seats based on economical backwardness. However the supreme court quashed the proposal since Article 14 of the constitution does not empower the government to reserve seats based on economic criterias.

Now I would also like to bring to your notice another important fact.

The above supreme court decision was not negated by any amendment to the constituion. However in one another decision the supreme court said that reservation should be considered only for entry into jobs and not for promotion since that would compromise on the efficiency of corporate governance and as such will be against Article 335(An article empowering the state for reservation to SCs/STs). However this decision was negated by the government by amending the consititution.

So, it is clear from these two different reaction of the government to the same set of situation that the government is merely trying to play vote bank politics and perhaps are not so seriously concerned about public welfare. In the first case they didn't want to amend because the number of votes (net) that it could pull was really negligble while in the second situation it was substantial.